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  February 2018 Watchtower - Addressing abuse Victims

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there's a preview note on one of the articles in this newly released watchtower.

  the note can be found on an article titled "part 1 of 4 love and justice in ancient israel".the note states -.

  this article is the first in a series of four that will discuss why we can be sure that jehovah cares about us.

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  new boy

  "Although he may not intervene immediately, in due time he will hold unrepentant wrongdoers to account for the way they have treated others."

  I guess that means the governing body because of their failure to turn in known pedophiles.
  
  
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  A Cult Tactic: Removing Guilt By Dehumanising Others

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the real world, very few parents would disown their own children simply because they read a magazine that told them to do it.

  very few people would forever completely ignore their own parents because an elder got up on a platform one day and announced that they no longer follow the same religion as you.. in the real world it just doesn't happen.

  and yet, for 8 million jehovah's witnesses it's very a normal part of their world to treat "other people" differently than they'd treat each other.

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  new boy

  Are the JWs like the Nazis? Good question.

  I would say yes.... and no... but yet they are.

  Yes, in the fact their contaminated thought system has alienated and killed people with their shunning policy. Just like the Nazis shunning of the Jews.

  However being pacifists they actually will not kill you, no they hope their god will do that dirty work for them.

  Yet isn't this what happened in Nazis Germany. The general population of families of men women and children never really killed the Jews that were around them. No the let their god/soldiers do that dirty work for them.

  So are are we talking about the difference of thoughts of hatred or the actual acts of violence?

  Are they really not the same thing?

  Maybe you can't kill someone but wish them dead.

  Just like 8 million JWs are looking forward to the day their god will kill 8 billion people on this planet.

  Even though they can't do the dirty work they will let their loving god Jehovah put these billions of people in the gas chambers known as Armageddon.

  So yes just as the general German population stood by as their government destroyed millions of "worldly" people (people different than them) the JWs like the Germans are able to the same thing.

  Sieg Hiel!
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  A Cult Tactic: Removing Guilt By Dehumanising Others

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the real world, very few parents would disown their own children simply because they read a magazine that told them to do it.

  very few people would forever completely ignore their own parents because an elder got up on a platform one day and announced that they no longer follow the same religion as you.. in the real world it just doesn't happen.

  and yet, for 8 million jehovah's witnesses it's very a normal part of their world to treat "other people" differently than they'd treat each other.

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  new boy

  Yes it's the old "Us and them" concept that has been going on since the beginning of time.

  It's the scourge of the planet. Once a person believes this concept to be real. They can rationalize any kind of behavior.

  Yet there really is only "us."
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  new boy

  Of course the quote was "Stay Alive until 75!"
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  "Psychiatrist is an Admission of Defeat"

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  “the christian witnesses of jehovah are the best oriented, happiest and most contended group of people on the face of the earth.

  so why on earth would any good follower need the help of a mental health professional?” the society tells about the evils of seeking help from outside their organization.

  "as a rule, for a christian to go to a worldly psychiatrist is an admission of defeat.

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  new boy

  The society has said. “The Christian witnesses of Jehovah are the best oriented, happiest and most contended group of people on the face of the Earth. So why on Earth would any good follower need the help of a mental health professional?” The society tells about the evils of seeking help from outside their organization.

  "As a rule, for a Christian to go to a worldly psychiatrist is an admission of defeat. It amounts to 'going down to Egypt for help' - Isaiah 31:1. ...Also, more and more psychiatrists are resorting to hypnosis which is a demonic form of worldly wisdom." Awake! 1960 March 8 p. 27

  “Often when a Witness of Jehovah goes to a psychiatrist, the psychiatrist will try to persuade him that his troubles are caused by his religion, entirely overlooking the fact that the Christian witnesses of Jehovah are the best oriented, happiest and most contended group of people on the face of the Earth. They have the least need for psychiatrists. Also, more and more psychiatrists are resorting to hypnosis, which is a demonic form of worldly wisdom.” Awake! 1954

  Why would the society not want their mentally distressed followers see a psychiatrist? Because they are concerned for the welfare and health of their disciples? No, they don’t care if you are about ready to blow your brains out, because your parents and Aunt Rose are going to die at Armageddon.

  What are they worried about then? They state it very clearly. “The psychiatrist will try to persuade him that his troubles are caused by his religion”

  Wow, they don’t even blink an eye do they?

  What if this is true? What if your whack job of a religion is creating the grief and distress in your life!

  Cool aid anyone?
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  Stock market 2018 turbulence

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  last week was awful for the stock exchange..... do you guys think something like the 2008 crisis could happen again?

  the prophets of doom are talking about a 10 % correction....

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  well traditionally October has always been the month
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  How Effective Are Anti-JW Internet Sites?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think that once you get on the internet and you see evidence that shows jehovah’s witnesses do not have the real truth, it can jolt you.

  but i don’t think simply going on an internet site typically changes a person’s direction—even if the information is very damning toward the witnesses.

  i think it takes time to eventually get out.

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  new boy

  I never looked up anything on the internet for or against the JWs before I left their organization.

  On the other hand the information here has been invaluable! In fact the book I have been writing could never had happened with out the wealth of information that was been found here. Plus, I have been able to make many wonderful connections with people here. Their wonderful stories and experiences have been a real source of encouragement!

  This is the only site I'm on.

  I can't thank Simon enough. Well will never know how many lives ( both physically and mentally) this site has saved!
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  Wacky Baccy Eh! Cannabis Now Legal in Canada

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  so canada has legalized pot / marijuana / cannabis and you can go to stores today and buy some.

  the local news is covering it here in calgary with crowds of thousands expected at one of only 2 stores licensed in the city but last i saw, there were only 7 people in the line so who knows how popular it will be.

  i imagine all the people who really wanted to get it could already get it easily so this is more about expanding the market to new users who will be less inclined to queue for hours on day 1.. apparently you'll also be able to purchase online with discreet delivery by canada post.

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  Your right good point!
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  Wacky Baccy Eh! Cannabis Now Legal in Canada

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  so canada has legalized pot / marijuana / cannabis and you can go to stores today and buy some.

  the local news is covering it here in calgary with crowds of thousands expected at one of only 2 stores licensed in the city but last i saw, there were only 7 people in the line so who knows how popular it will be.

  i imagine all the people who really wanted to get it could already get it easily so this is more about expanding the market to new users who will be less inclined to queue for hours on day 1.. apparently you'll also be able to purchase online with discreet delivery by canada post.

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  I thought we were not supposed to talk about "drugs" on this web site!

  lol
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  Contaminated Thought System

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in gathering the last little bits of info for my book i tracked down different people, that i have known for many decades.

  some are still jws and many have made the break to freedom.. one of the people i contacted was a woman i knew over forty years ago.

  she like myself was a "born in.

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  In gathering the last little bits of info for my book I tracked down different people, that I have known for many decades. Some are still JWs and many have made the break to freedom.

  One of the people I contacted was a woman I knew over forty years ago. She like myself was a "born in." She committed adultery back in the early nineteen eighties. Like many people who have been trapped in bad marriages, it was the only way to end and unpleasant situation.

  She was able to kill two birds with one stone, and got rid of bad marriage and a bad religion. She was able to do this by way of what she thinks of to this day as an evil act/sin. Even though she believes ending the marriage was the best thing she every did.

  40 years out and still feeling guilty. She committed a sin. she "missed the mark." In her mind she broke the rules. Who's rules? What rules?

  I have just turned 69 years old and been "out" for over 17 years. Yet, I know in my heart that I'm still dealing with this contaminated thought system that I had been raised in. I know my children who were "born in" and who also have been out of the religion for the same amount of time are still dealing with the confusion of how they were raised. Sadly even my grand children who were never Jehovah's Witnesses have been effected by it.

  Many of my ex-Jehovah Witnesses friends tell me what is "right or wrong" what is "appropriate and inappropriate behavior"

  Yet where did we get these concepts from? The Bible or other books? Or maybe our parents with their contaminated thought systems?

  We all choose what we what to believe in, don't we? Yet were did these notions really come from?

  If we don't continually challenge ourselves and test ourselves with the eternal questions of "What, Where, How and Why, how will we ever know if we are free from the many contaminated thought systems that proliferate this planet?

  What is your "truth" and what do you believe in?